G8JNJ

Hi Alain,

This circuit may help. It is placed on the KiWi RF input and rolls off the gain at MF and also incorporates a simple MF BC band notch.




The items marked 1 & 2 are the 50 Ohm input and output ports (treat them as coax connectors with a grounded screen). Component legs connected to a common ground are indicated with the triangular shaped three horizontal parallel bar symbols.

The basic circuit is a 10dB Tee attenuator formed by the three resistors.

The values chosen for the attenuator sets the maximum attenuation at the lowest frequency. You can increase or decrease the amount of attenuation by altering the value of the resistors. I chose 10dB as it seems to provide the best compromise in terms of optimizing the amplitude of signal levels VS S/N ratio when using typical antennas.

The 330pF capacitor and 330nH inductor set the frequency at which the attenuation starts to decrease.

The 100pF capacitor resonates with the 330nH inductor at around 30MHz to help reduce any residual attenuation at that frequency.

As the frequency increases the reactance of the capacitor decreases, and the reactance of the inductor increases and this gradually disconnects the attenuator network.

The circuit is typically used in cable TV networks to compensate for increasing coax attenuation with frequency. Amplifiers will have compensation to provide rising gain with frequency in order to offset the cable losses. If you want more background look up Zobel network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zobel_network

On the output of the equaliser, a simple series tuned circuit notches out the MF signals centered on approx 900KHz with a notch depth of approx 25dB. The bandwidth and notch depth are determined by the component 'Q' and L/C ratio.

I have built quite a few for various KiWi owners. It usually solves the problem of MF band overload for folks who are using loops without unduly affecting the overall performance.

Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ

Hi Alain,

This circuit may help. It is placed on the KiWi RF input and rolls off the gain at MF and also incorporates a simple MF BC band notch.




The items marked 1 & 2 are the 50 Ohm input and output ports (treat them as coax connectors with a grounded screen). Component legs connected to a common ground are indicated with the triangular shaped three horizontal parallel bar symbols.

The basic circuit is a 10dB Tee attenuator formed by the three resistors.

The values chosen for the attenuator sets the maximum attenuation at the lowest frequency. You can increase or decrease the amount of attenuation by altering the value of the resistors. I chose 10dB as it seems to provide the best compromise in terms of optimizing the amplitude of signal levels VS S/N ratio when using typical antennas.

The 330pF capacitor and 330nH inductor set the frequency at which the attenuation starts to decrease.

The 100pF capacitor resonates with the 330nH inductor at around 30MHz to help reduce any residual attenuation at that frequency.

As the frequency increases the reactance of the capacitor decreases, and the reactance of the inductor increases and this gradually disconnects the attenuator network.

The circuit is typically used in cable TV networks to compensate for increasing coax attenuation with frequency. Amplifiers will have compensation to provide rising gain with frequency in order to offset the cable losses. If you want more background look up Zobel network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zobel_network

On the output of the equaliser, a simple series tuned circuit notches out the MF signals centered on approx 900KHz with a notch depth of approx 25dB. The bandwidth and notch depth are determined by the component 'Q' and L/C ratio.

I have built quite a few for various KiWi owners. It usually solves the problem of MF band overload for folks who are using loops without unduly affecting the overall performance.

Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ

Hi Giulio,

Happy Christmas.

The switched band pass filter seems to be very similar to that found in many 1970 onwards Superhet design based Amateur radio transceivers, so I would expect that (as John has already stated) if you drive the switching diodes correctly, it would probably be adequate for the purpose.

However that may not be the best solution for use with the KiWi SDR.

I think we need to better understand the problem you are trying to solve before anybody makes any proper recommendations.

Can you provide a bit more background information ?

Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ

Interestingly I found that using screened CAT 5 cable actually made the noise levels on the VLF bands <50KHz much worse.

In the end I went back to using un-screened CAT 5 with 12 turns through a FT240-31 core (Mouser part number 623-2631803802) which was just as effective on the HF as it was when used with screened CAT 5 at frequencies around 20MHz, but didn't introduce the additional noise on VLF. I think the screen adds an additional ground loop, which the transformers in the Ethernet interface and external choke baluns can't fully isolate / filter because of the very low RF frequencies involved (just my opinion).

I also found that bonding the RF in and GPS connectors directly to the metal case at the point of entry reduced the HF noise floor by a further approx 3-6dB depending upon the exact cable configurations, but your mileage may vary.

Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ

Hi,

Just installed it and tried it but it doesn't work with the KiWi.

I tried playing some videos on YouTube and it worked OK with that.

So it can work but sadly not for the KiWi. Which is a pity as it would have been useful to open up receivers on different tabs, and then reroute the audio from each to separate destinations.

Regards,

Martin - G8JNJ