Using nRF24L01 Mini to Send Control Signals to KiwiSDR

Jordan1xJordan1x
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Hi everyone,

I’ve got an idea I’m experimenting with: adding a small wireless controller to my KiwiSDR using the nRF24L01 Mini module to send control signals like filter adjustments or gain tweaks from another room. But I’m running into a few problems and wonder if anyone here has tried something similar or can help troubleshoot.

I've wired up the nRF24L01 to a small microcontroller (ESP32) that reads buttons/knobs and sends control messages over RF. On the KiwiSDR end, another ESP32 or microcontroller listens and issues local commands via the Kiwi’s REST API or GPIO pins. Tested everything close by, works reliably up to a few meters.

Issues I’m seeing:

There’s a noticeable lag (~200-500 ms) when I turn knobs; the Kiwi reacts slowly. As soon as I get further away or have walls, signal degradation causes missed packets. The nRF24 module seems sensitive; supply fluctuations or nearby electronics cause dropouts.

Are there tips to reduce latency (buffering, packet size, acknowledgment settings, RF channel selection)? For better range / reliability, would using a stronger RF board or external antenna help, or is interference in the Kiwi setup likely to dominate?

Happy to share sketches or wiring diagrams if helpful. Thanks in advance!

Jordan

Comments

  • smgsmg

    Some thoughts:

    • Fix nRF24 power first: These modules are notoriously twitchy. Add a local reservoir cap right at VCC/GND on the radio (≥10 µF, plus 0.1 µF ceramic), short leads, and clean 3.3 V supply. This alone often cures range and “missed packet” weirdness.
    • Radio settings for reliability over speed: Run 250 kbps (better sensitivity), pick a channel away from busy Wi-Fi, use 2-byte CRC, minimise auto-ack retries (or move to app-level seq+ack to avoid backoff storms when RSSI is marginal). (General nRF24 best-practice; aligns with why folks see big improvements once power+rate are sorted.)
    • Don’t run your listener on the BeagleBone. Keep the RF listener on an ESP32 or small MCU and talk to the Kiwi over the network. Kiwi’s realtime threads can and do pre-empt other work; extra user code on the BBG can increase jitter and audio glitches
    • Batch/Throttle control traffic to Kiwi: The “REST-ish” control path was never meant as a public, high-rate knob stream. Send state changes, not every tick (e.g., 10–20 Hz max), coalesce parameters, and avoid polling. If you need tighter coupling, use kiwiclient (control socket) or write a Kiwi extension so the UI talks directly without extra network hops.
    • RF hygiene near the Kiwi: 2.4 GHz won’t directly desense HF, but dirty DC/DCs, long wires, or the ESP32 clock harmonics can. Keep the RF widget physically away from the SDR/antenna leads and use shielded/short wiring.


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